Atheist, Agnostic

On the “atheist” vs. “agnostic” business, the old gadfly said as much as can be said, I think. From his Wikipedia entry:

As a philosopher, if I were speaking to a purely philosophic audience I should say that I ought to describe myself as an Agnostic, because I do not think that there is a conclusive argument by which one can prove that there is not a God. On the other hand, if I am to convey the right impression to the ordinary man in the street I think that I ought to say that I am an Atheist,  because, when I say that I cannot prove that there is not a God, I ought to add equally that I cannot prove that there are not the Homeric gods.

If pressed, I describe myself as a “functional atheist,” living my life and thinking my thoughts, such as they are, on the assumption that there are no gods. If I can be reasonably sure that my interlocutor will know what I mean (and will not take me to be a member of that defunct rock group), or if I feel like sacrificing enough of my time to explain, I say I am a Mysterian.

Russell, incidentally, supplies a good data point to the nature side of the nature/nurture argument. His parents were radical freethinkers — scandalously so. His mother died when Russell was just two, however, and his father when he was 3½. Russell was raised by his grandmother, a puritanical Presbyterian. In adult life he was a … radical freethinker.

(Though these things are always probabilistic. Russell’s son became a stalwart of the Church of England.)

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“…the goal is to keep religious people from making public arguments that have any force”

Daniel Larison thinks it unreasonable to ask religious conservatives to put theology to one side when prescribing to the rest of us on public policy. John Cole has one response.

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Mozi vs. the Confucians

From Wikipedia on the bête noire of the Confucians, Mozi:

…Though Mozi did not believe that history necessarily progresses, as did Han Fei Zi, he shared the latter’s critique of fate (?, mìng). Mozi believed that people were capable of changing their circumstances and directing their own lives. They could do this by applying their senses to observing the world, judging objects and events by their causes, their function, and their historical basis. (“Against Fate, Part 3”) This was the “three-prong method” Mozi recommended for testing the truth or falsehood of statements. His students later expanded on this to form the School of Names.

Mozi tended to evaluate actions based on whether they provide benefit (?, lì) to the people, which he measured in terms of an enlarged population (states were sparsely populated in his day), a prosperous economy, and social order. Similar to the Western utilitarians, Mozi thought that actions should be measured by the way they contribute to the “greatest good of the greatest number.” With this criterion Mozi denounced things as diverse as offensive warfare, expensive funerals, and even music and dance which he saw as serving no useful purpose. Mozi did not reject to music in principle — “It’s not that I don’t like the sound of the drum” (“Against Music”) — but because of the heavy tax burden such activities placed on commoners and also due to the fact that officials tended to indulge in them at the expense of their duties.

Mozi tried to replace what he considered to be the long-entrenched Chinese over-attachment to family and clan structures with the concept of “impartial caring” or “universal love” (??, ji?n ài). In this, he argued directly against Confucians who had argued that it was natural and correct for people to care about different people in different degrees. Mozi, by contrast, argued people in principle should care for all people equally, a notion that philosophers in other schools found absurd, as they interpreted this notion as implying no special amount of care or duty towards one’s parents and family….

What we know about Mozi is colored by the fact that the losers do not get to write history. But, I think it is easy to see the distant affinity to the radical utilitarianisms of today. Confucians, despite their lack of perceived direct practicality because of their focus on rituals and cultivation of personal virtue while some starved or there was injustice abroad, served as the philosophical cement which bound together the Chinese state for nearly 2,000 years. Note by the way that Mozi’s school of thought was ancestral to the School of Names, logicians (though I caution too direct an analogy to logic in the Western tradition).

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Who prays more, Democrats or Republicans?

Heather’s post about Democratic prayers for the bailout made me wonder about differences between the parties. The photos in the article show a black church, so I was skeptical that Democrats prayed as much as Republicans overall. I looked at the PRAY variable in the GSS. The N’s were huge, PARTYID and PRAY were asked of nearly 20,000 people.

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Uh-oh. Democrats pray, too.

Union leaders hope that a Detroit bail-out gets a divine nudge .

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The Ancients

When a secularist attempts to create a distinction between “ethics” and “morality” in order to argue that the public sphere should focus on the former, religious people often become sneaky and try to point out that ethics are informed by or derived from morality. A usual form of their intellectual appropriation is to say something like: “Your ethical values are a by-product of a Judeo-Christian heritage.”

There are numerous effective responses to this and mine generally focus on the role of ancient, pre-Christian, philosophy in the development of ethics. Some sneakier religious people will acknowledge the role of the ancients but then try and suggest that the ancients were influenced by Judaism, and since this is a “Judeo-Christian” country, even the ancients were really informed by religion! (It is usually a Christian who has never read the Old Testament that tries this).

What other viable responses can you think of?

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Who reads the Secular Right?

This website has been around for a little over 2 weeks, and it’s already attracted a lot of attention. So I thought it might be fun to take the pulse of the readership with a few poll questions…. Continue reading

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The wages of reason

Just to be clear, I support the program of experimental philosophy.  Some of the arguments on this weblog have seen me be extremely dismissive of reason. If one is not ambitious, and keeps the chain of propositions suitably modest, there is certainly much utility in the use of reason.  But if you read a book like Experiments in Ethics you see that there is much empirical data which confirms that the verbal arguments of extremely intelligent philosophers do not capture the generality of the human condition & cognition.  Philosophy has ceded to natural science much of its ancient ground, and the intuitions and rationales of the savants of yore have been found wanting.   Induction tells us therefore to be suitably skeptical of the contemporary confidence and certitude of some philosophers who survey the domains left to their discipline.  Grand system building in the physical sciences have yielded us the age of affluence, while in social and humane domains it has by and large resulted in folly. That is why I am sympathetic to the position that we should do what has worked in the past in preference to what we think should work in the future.

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Metaphysics & mathematics

Edward Feser, An open letter to Heather MacDonald:

Now I have claimed – as a great many other thinkers, both secular and religious, would claim – that philosophy, and in particular the branch of philosophy called metaphysics, is another form of inquiry which is both rational and at least in part non-empirical. It can be thought of as being similar to both empirical science and mathematics in some respects, and different from both in other respects. Like empirical science, metaphysics often begins with things we know via observation. But like mathematics, it arrives at conclusions which, if the reasoning leading to them is correct, are necessary truths rather than contingent ones, truths that could not have been otherwise. That doesn’t mean that the metaphysician is infallible, any more than the mathematician is. It means instead that if he has done his job well, he will (like the mathematician) have discovered truths about the world that are even deeper and more indubitable than the most solid findings of empirical science.

1) The last sentence takes sides in a debate within mathematical philosophy as to the nature of mathematics. A minor point, but I think not trivial.

2) I don’t grant that metaphysics is very analogous to mathematics at all.* There is a reason that powerfully predictive sciences such as physics use mathematics in preference to verbal reasoning. Humans are really bad at reasoning without the formal structure of mathematics. Really bad. Mathematics straitjackets human cleverness, and prevents one from slowly inching toward their preferred conclusion through a sequence of plausible, if not definite, chain of propositions.

Natural science & mathematics know progress. We cede to them pride of place in intellectual disciplines precisely because we see their fruit all around us.  The method of mathematical proof is so robust that Euclid’s The Elements is still used as a textbook today because it is of more than historical interest.  And yet mathematics does move on at the same time, the elementary techniques learned by most students in the natural sciences (e.g., introductory calculus) are no longer of great intellectual interest.

Note: I do on occasion enjoy reading pre & early modern metaphysicians, but only because of their relevance to the history of thought.

* On second thought, perhaps it is analogous. When I was last interested in philosophical apologetics I would run into a fair amount of logical notation. But, the relation is similar to that of particle physics and social physics (i.e., a quantitative understanding of the dynamics of human societies).  I hope that one day social physics can add some genuine value, but it is not even a shadow of what particle physics is.

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Sexuality and human nature

A friend emailed me in response to my post below:

Interesting example with homosexuality, both because the choice of sexual behavior, pretty much the sort of thing that one would expect the strongest biological constraints on, was apparently needed to make the point about limited flexibility AND because we know historically that homosexual behavior HAS been normalized in many world cultures. The combination of these two points seems to argue strongly for human nature being flexible indeed.

I would say that the problem is precisely what you have diagnosed. We do little social engineering and much shamanism. Shamanism doesn’t work. From that you can’t conclude that engineering doesn’t work. Unsurprisingly, when people try to create large social changes or flying machines through force of will they fail. Doesn’t mean they would fail if they actually figured out how to do it.

That said, we largely don’t know how to do it, at least with respect to building utopias. Building dystopias seems to be much easier and I would say that we do know how to build fairly respectable dystopias.

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