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And that’s 2012 AD. The substitution of BC and AD with BCE and CE has to be one of the more pointless examples of the language laundering that scars our, uh, era.
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Or if you’re really finicky, AD 2012. But if you’re a finicky secularist, you’re probably also exercised about a calendar based on the presumed birth of Christ.
I think the change makes a lot of sense. BC and AD suggest a ratification of the religious component. CE and BCE don’t suggest a ratifying of that component.
I agree the CE/BCE change is kind of silly. It’s just the same system with different names and doesn’t fool anyone not willing to be fooled by it. If we want a new dating system then start it at a completely different and much better established event. The first manned moon landing would be good one.
Happy New Year to the Secular Right folks too! I hope to see more posts in the coming year, although I suppose this policy of not posting until you have something to say does have its points.
“Language laundering”, I’ll have to remember that. Yes, I prefer BC and AD on the grounds of maintaining harmless traditions. With respect to AYY, I don’t think it suggests ratifying the religious component any more than than CE and BCE. The dividing line would still come from a tradition about when a religious figure was born, and sticking another label on it doesn’t alter that.
AYY, it’s a pointless whitewash. This concept of “common era” still uses the Jesus tales as its anchor. Should we rename March because it’s named after the god Mars, or Thursday which is named after Thor?
Actually, the substitution of BCE and CE for AD and BC is an example of extreme cultural arrogance and stupidity.
There is no common era except as imposed by 200 years of Anglo-American dominance. The Orthodox Church still uses the Julian Calendar (AD/BC and CE/BCE are Gregorian), and the Hebrew, Hindu, Chinese and Muslim calendars are also still in use. Perhaps you have heard of Tet?
d.c.= AD (Anno domini) for years measured after Christ (more politically correct to say Common Era, or CE) but I don’t know how much that expression is being used! Hope that helps a lot
There is no common era except as imposed by 200 years of Anglo-American dominance.
Well, yes. That’s exactly what makes it the common era. But imposing our calendar is one thing; imposing its religious implications is another. No point in adding insult to injury.