{"id":9251,"date":"2014-05-24T18:55:47","date_gmt":"2014-05-24T18:55:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/?p=9251"},"modified":"2014-05-24T18:59:48","modified_gmt":"2014-05-24T18:59:48","slug":"fire-brimstone-free-speech-and-english-law","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/fire-brimstone-free-speech-and-english-law\/","title":{"rendered":"Fire, Brimstone, Free Speech and English Law"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"tall<\/a>Here’s just another reminder that there\u2019s not much in the way of free speech left in David Cameron\u2019s Britain.<\/p>\n

The Daily Mail<\/em> has the details<\/a>:<\/p>\n

A baptist church was at the centre of a police probe after a sign which suggested non-Christians would ‘burn in hell’ was investigated as a ‘hate incident’. The offending sign at Attleborough Baptist Church in Norfolk, pictured burning flames below words which read: ‘If you think there is no God you better be right!!’.<\/p>\n

Now the church has been forced to remove the sign after a passer-by complained to police that it could ‘not be further’ from the Christian phrase, love thy neighbour. Robert Gladwin, 20, said: ‘It is my basic understanding that Christianity is inclusive and loving in nature. ‘The message being displayed outside of the church could not be further from the often uttered phrase \u2018love thy neighbour\u2019.’<\/p>\n

Mr Gladwin said he was ‘astounded’ when he spotted the poster by chance as he was walking home. He said: ‘I was just astounded really. We live in the 21st century and they have put that message – that non-Christians will burn in hell – up to try and scare people into joining their mentality.’<\/p>\n

The strongly-worded sign – which was put up next to a notice board which promises that visitors ‘can always be sure of a very warm welcome’ – was taken down by Pastor John Rose, 69, after police launched an investigation into the complaint. <\/p>\n

Mr Rose said he ‘regretted’ how the poster could have been interpreted. He said: ‘Attleborough Baptist Church offers a variety of ways in which people are able to engage with the Christian message…Jesus encourages us to love God and to love our neighbour and we therefore regret that the poster has been seen as inciting hatred.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The Eastern Daily Press<\/em> has more<\/a>:<\/p>\n

A spokesperson for the police said: \u201cNorfolk Constabulary received a report regarding a poster outside a church in Attleborough which was deemed offensive by the complainant.<\/p>\n

\u201cNational guidance required us to investigate the circumstances and the matter has been recorded as a hate incident. Having spoken to the pastor of the church, it has been agreed the poster will be taken down.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

This is, of course, a ludicrous story, not least the presumption on the part of Gladwin that his understanding of Christianity is superior to that of the pastor. It might be, it might not be (Christianity takes many different forms). <\/p>\n

But it is also a sinister story. It is sinister that Gladwin\u2019s response to seeing this poster was to turn to the police. It is sinister that the police chose to investigate the matter on the basis of one complaint (it would have also been sinister had they chosen to investigate after receiving five thousand complaints). It is sinister that this decision was based on (unspecified) “national guidelines”. “Obeying orders”, it seems is no longer enough. It is sinister that there are “national guidelines”. It is sinister that the police then labeled the posting of this entirely unobjectionable poster as a \u201chate incident\u201d. And it is sinister that the pastor has \u201cagreed\u201d to take down the poster. <\/p>\n

A friend who is a Roman Catholic priest once told me that there are more references to Hell in the gospels than to Heaven. If that\u2019s so, let\u2019s hope that Jesus doesn\u2019t show up in Norfolk any time soon. Because if He does, the moment that He starts talking about, oh, the \u201cfurnace of fire\u201d<\/a> or, say, \u201cthe fire [that ] is not quenched<\/a>,\u201d He will probably have to start looking for a very good lawyer.<\/p>\n

H\/t: Cranmer<\/a><\/p>\n

For some relief from this nasty tale… <\/p>\n