{"id":5637,"date":"2011-03-23T18:54:39","date_gmt":"2011-03-23T18:54:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/?p=5637"},"modified":"2011-03-23T18:55:29","modified_gmt":"2011-03-23T18:55:29","slug":"wisdom-of-the-east","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wisdom-of-the-east\/","title":{"rendered":"Wisdom of the East"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/2011\/03\/18\/religion-reading-list\/comment-page-1\/#comment-21874\">SuperSnail<\/a> asks:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Hey Razib, could you compile a list of Chinese and Indian religious history\/philosophy books?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;ve actually made the call for <a href=\"http:\/\/www.brownpundits.com\/2011\/03\/18\/books-on-dharmic-religions\/\">books on Indian religion and philosophy elsewhere<\/a>. My knowledge set in this domain is <em>very<\/em> thin, so I don&#8217;t feel comfortable recommending anything. I have read primary sources such as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/1586380192\/geneexpressio-20\">The Bhagavad Gita<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0140449892\/geneexpressio-20\">The Rig Veda<\/a>, as well as Wendy Doniger&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/014311669X\/geneexpressio-20\">The Hindus<\/a>, but I have no sense of the lay of the land. To be frank Indian religion and philosophy has minimal appeal for  me. The materialist school, the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/C%C4%81rv%C4%81ka\">Carvaka<\/a>, is generally characterized by its <em>opponents<\/em>, so it isn&#8217;t as if I find any succor in that direction (imagine that everything you knew about classical paganism was purely through the polemics of Christian apologists).<\/p>\n<p>When it comes to China I am a bit more comfortable. Unlike the case with the Abrahamic religions I assume many readers are not so familiar with the primary texts. So the list below is more weighted toward the &#8220;sources,&#8221; though I think one can argue that Confucianism as it is lived has as much to do with <i>The Analects<\/i> as Christianity does with the synoptic gospels. I&#8217;ll leave it up to the reader to make an inference as to the lesson one takes from this analogy!<\/p>\n<p>I am personally rather positively inclined toward the &#8220;black sheep&#8221; of the early Confucian sages, Xunzi, who I suspect would be most comprehensible to those with a &#8220;Secular Right&#8221; perspective. Xunzi&#8217;s emphasis on the necessity of social order and regulation had a more jaundiced tinge than that of Confucius, and especially Mencius, but some have argued that <i>in practice<\/i> the Confucianism of Chinese civilization owes more to him than to his more well regarded predecessors.<\/p>\n<p>Because of its concrete and &#8220;this worldly&#8221; emphasis Chinese religion and philosophy can&#8217;t be understood well without a reference to the broader history of China, so there are many general history books on the list. Additionally, the final section has a periodic temporal focus, going from dynasty to dynasty. I&#8217;ve omitted any books on Buddhism because I think in the Chinese context this religion can be decomposed mostly into its &#8220;foreign&#8221; and &#8220;indigenous.&#8221; The synthesis may be novel (e.g., <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Zen#The_Five_Houses_of_Zen\">Chan Buddhism<\/a>, more commonly known as Zen in the West), but usually I think its antecedents in indigenous Chinese or exogenous Indian &#038; Central Asian traditions are pretty clear.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><br \/>\n<b>Primary sources &#038; surveys:<\/b><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0345434072\/geneexpressio-20\">The Analects of Confucius<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0743246187\/geneexpressio-20\">The Authentic Confucius<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0521644305\/geneexpressio-20\">An Introduction to Confucianism<br \/>\n<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0231129653\/geneexpressio-20\">Xunzi<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0812695976\/geneexpressio-20\">The Philosophy of Xunzi<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/014044971X\/geneexpressio-20\">Mencius<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0231130015\/geneexpressio-20\">Mozi<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0674053249\/geneexpressio-20\">Neo-Confucianism in History<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0231109393\/geneexpressio-20\">Sources of Chinese Tradition, Vol. 1<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0231112718\/geneexpressio-20\">Sources of Chinese Tradition, Vol. 2<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0684836343\/geneexpressio-20\">A Short History of Chinese Philosophy<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>General Histories:<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0674018281\/geneexpressio-20\">China: A New History<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0465015808\/geneexpressio-20\">China: A History<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0393973743\/geneexpressio-20\">The Open Empire<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0521497817\/geneexpressio-20\">A History of Chinese Civilization<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Period Histories:<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/067402477X\/geneexpressio-20\">The Early Chinese Empires<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0674026055\/geneexpressio-20\">China between Empires<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/067403306X\/\/geneexpressio-20\">China&#8217;s Cosmopolitan Empire<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/1403934576\/geneexpressio-20\">T&#8217;ang China<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0674031466\/geneexpressio-20\">The Age of Confucian Rule<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0674046021\/geneexpressio-20\">The Troubled Empire<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0674036123\/geneexpressio-20\">China&#8217;s Last Empire<\/a><\/p>\n<p>If you read one book on the list, I think Jacques Gernet&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0521497817\/geneexpressio-20\">A History of Chinese Civilization<\/a> is the way to go.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>SuperSnail asks: Hey Razib, could you compile a list of Chinese and Indian religious history\/philosophy books? I&#8217;ve actually made the call for books on Indian religion and philosophy elsewhere. 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