{"id":2270,"date":"2009-07-08T11:00:35","date_gmt":"2009-07-08T19:00:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/secularright.org\/wordpress\/?p=2270"},"modified":"2009-07-08T11:13:05","modified_gmt":"2009-07-08T19:13:05","slug":"limousine-liberals-out-of-touch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/limousine-liberals-out-of-touch\/","title":{"rendered":"Limousine liberals out of touch?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In the <a href=\"http:\/\/secularright.org\/wordpress\/?p=2265\">post below<\/a> a few people asked about comparisons with Democrats. So I decided to add Dems to the columns, so there are 4 classes, Dems without college degrees, Dems with college degrees or higher, Repubs without college degrees and Repubs with college degrees or higher. A few points:<\/p>\n<p>1) The &#8220;elites&#8221;, or, more accurately, the 1\/4 who have college degrees or higher, are more ideologically polarized. <\/p>\n<p>2) There are a set of issues where class is more important than party identification. For example, free speech, where <em>both <\/em>educated segments have similar opinions vs. the less educated segments.<\/p>\n<p>3) Everyone is not happy with the current the level of taxation on the middle class.<\/p>\n<p>4) There are a set of social issues where educated Democrats are outliers. This is probably due to the fact that this class is extremely secular in relation to the others. Though educated Republicans are generally not fundamentalist in their religious inclinations (in fact, <em>less<\/em> so than less educated Democrats) they are religious to the same extent as less educated Democrats and Republicans.<\/p>\n<p>5) Educated Democrats are generally more socially liberal than less educated Democrats, but their positions on non-cultural policy issues are more complex. They seem to favor a large welfare state, even to a greater extent than less educated (and so poorer) Democrats, but also are not as hostile to free trade. This is probably due to trade policy&#8217;s relationship to nationalism.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Note:<\/strong> Data from the <a href=\"http:\/\/sda.berkeley.edu\/cgi-bin\/hsda?harcsda+gss08\">GSS<\/a>. Paraphrased some of the questions. Remember to focus on rank orders and magnitudes of differences, as opposed to the specific detail of the question or differences of a few percent. Again, I limited the sample to 2004-2008.<br \/>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<table width=\"600\" border=\"1\">\n<tr>\n<td colspan=\"5\">\n<p><strong><em>Lower = No high school to some college<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Higher = Bachelor&#8217;s degree or higher <\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td colspan=\"2\"><strong>Repub or lean Repub <\/strong><\/td>\n<td colspan=\"2\"><strong>Dem or lean Dem <\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>&nbsp;<\/td>\n<td><strong>Lower<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Higher<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Lower<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Higher<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Moderate<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>32.8<\/td>\n<td>20.7<\/td>\n<td>43.8<\/td>\n<td>30.1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Slightly Conservative\/Liberal<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>20<\/td>\n<td>28.5<\/td>\n<td>14.3<\/td>\n<td>24.4<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Conservative\/Liberal<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>30.8<\/td>\n<td>37.6<\/td>\n<td>16.5<\/td>\n<td>28.5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Extremely Conservative\/Liberal <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>6.9<\/td>\n<td>7.5<\/td>\n<td>4.3<\/td>\n<td>7.3<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Protestant<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>61.8<\/td>\n<td>57.1<\/td>\n<td>51.7<\/td>\n<td>35.7<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Catholic<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>23.1<\/td>\n<td>26.7<\/td>\n<td>25.2<\/td>\n<td>26.7<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Jewish<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>0.7<\/td>\n<td>2<\/td>\n<td>1.6<\/td>\n<td>6.8<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>No Religion <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>9.3<\/td>\n<td>9.5<\/td>\n<td>15.4<\/td>\n<td>22.6<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Bible is Word of God <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>40.9<\/td>\n<td>24.1<\/td>\n<td>38.1<\/td>\n<td>8.9<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Inspired Word <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>46.5<\/td>\n<td>61.7<\/td>\n<td>45.1<\/td>\n<td>52.6<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Book of Fables <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>11.7<\/td>\n<td>12.7<\/td>\n<td>15.3<\/td>\n<td>35.3<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Fundamentalist<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>36.3<\/td>\n<td>22.7<\/td>\n<td>34.3<\/td>\n<td>11.7<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Humans evolved from animals <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>29.7<\/td>\n<td>47.1<\/td>\n<td>43.7<\/td>\n<td>79.6<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Strong. agree\/agree free trade leads to better products <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>59.3<\/td>\n<td>67.3<\/td>\n<td>52.8<\/td>\n<td>60.2<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Taxes on low income too high, or much too high <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>54.7<\/td>\n<td>36.8<\/td>\n<td>71.7<\/td>\n<td>58.5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Taxes on middle income too high, or much too high <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>55.8<\/td>\n<td>55.9<\/td>\n<td>58.4<\/td>\n<td>59.3<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Taxes on upper income too high, or much too high <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>27.3<\/td>\n<td>37.2<\/td>\n<td>25.4<\/td>\n<td>17.8<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Woman has right to abortion for any reason <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>29.2<\/td>\n<td>36<\/td>\n<td>40.8<\/td>\n<td>48.8<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Homosexual relations always wrong <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>69.6<\/td>\n<td>54.9<\/td>\n<td>56.3<\/td>\n<td>21.1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Agree or agree strongly that America should limit imports<\/strong><\/td>\n<td>58.3<\/td>\n<td>53.3<\/td>\n<td>65.5<\/td>\n<td>48.5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Owns gun in home <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>48.2<\/td>\n<td>43.1<\/td>\n<td>31.2<\/td>\n<td>27.3<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Semi-automatic rifles be limited to military <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>78.3<\/td>\n<td>84.9<\/td>\n<td>86.4<\/td>\n<td>91.4<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Does not hunt, spouse does not hunt <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>73.2<\/td>\n<td>80.4<\/td>\n<td>86<\/td>\n<td>90<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Government spending too much money on welfare <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>53.9<\/td>\n<td>53.6<\/td>\n<td>31.4<\/td>\n<td>22.3<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Allow racist to speak <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>59.1<\/td>\n<td>72.2<\/td>\n<td>56.3<\/td>\n<td>77.2<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Allow Communist to speak <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>63.9<\/td>\n<td>87.3<\/td>\n<td>62.5<\/td>\n<td>88.4<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Allow anti-Religionist to speak <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>74.5<\/td>\n<td>91.3<\/td>\n<td>72<\/td>\n<td>92.2<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>America largely or greatly benefits from NAFTA <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>11.3<\/td>\n<td>25.8<\/td>\n<td>17.7<\/td>\n<td>32.3<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Approve banning of prayer in public schools <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>34.6<\/td>\n<td>46.1<\/td>\n<td>35.5<\/td>\n<td>72.5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Spend more or much more on defense <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>53.5<\/td>\n<td>41.5<\/td>\n<td>35.4<\/td>\n<td>17.5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Spend more or much more on unemployment benefits <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>22<\/td>\n<td>11.8<\/td>\n<td>51.3<\/td>\n<td>30.1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Spend more or much more on environment <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>44.9<\/td>\n<td>33.9<\/td>\n<td>56.6<\/td>\n<td>79.9<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Spend more or much more on health <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>72.8<\/td>\n<td>56.6<\/td>\n<td>87.9<\/td>\n<td>89.8<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Spend more on culture &amp; the arts <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>11.3<\/td>\n<td>13.2<\/td>\n<td>26.8<\/td>\n<td>48<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Will not eat genetically modified foods <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>29.7<\/td>\n<td>20.8<\/td>\n<td>36.5<\/td>\n<td>33.9<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Know God exists <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>69.8<\/td>\n<td>64.8<\/td>\n<td>66.4<\/td>\n<td>37.1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Support or strongly support racial preference for blacks <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>9.2<\/td>\n<td>6.7<\/td>\n<td>19.6<\/td>\n<td>27.5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Would vote for black president (yes) <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>92.9<\/td>\n<td>98.8<\/td>\n<td>93.4<\/td>\n<td>99.5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Black problems due to discrimination (yes) <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>24.7<\/td>\n<td>17.6<\/td>\n<td>41.7<\/td>\n<td>50.8<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Hardly any confidence in organized labor <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>32.3<\/td>\n<td>40.6<\/td>\n<td>23.8<\/td>\n<td>21.8<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Owns home <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>74.9<\/td>\n<td>89.5<\/td>\n<td>64.2<\/td>\n<td>76.1<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Family income above $25,000 <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>70.2<\/td>\n<td>86.4<\/td>\n<td>60.9<\/td>\n<td>84.5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Strongly agree or agree that better if man work and woman tend home <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>46<\/td>\n<td>31.9<\/td>\n<td>35.1<\/td>\n<td>15.2<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Would vote for woman president (yes) <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>89.6<\/td>\n<td>95.5<\/td>\n<td>96.2<\/td>\n<td>97<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Pornography should be illegal to all (yes) <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>46.4<\/td>\n<td>40.2<\/td>\n<td>34.1<\/td>\n<td>30.9<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Sex before marriage always wrong <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>32.7<\/td>\n<td>33<\/td>\n<td>21.1<\/td>\n<td>7.5<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Identify as middle class <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>47.6<\/td>\n<td>73.8<\/td>\n<td>35.1<\/td>\n<td>66<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Identify as upper class <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>2.1<\/td>\n<td>8.6<\/td>\n<td>1.6<\/td>\n<td>5.8<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Favors death penalty for murder (yes) <\/strong><\/td>\n<td>81<\/td>\n<td>79.1<\/td>\n<td>63<\/td>\n<td>47.9<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Government should not take any action to reduce income 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So I decided to add Dems to the columns, so there are 4 classes, Dems without college degrees, Dems with college degrees or higher, Repubs without college degrees &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/limousine-liberals-out-of-touch\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mi_skip_tracking":false},"categories":[9,10],"tags":[54,281,96],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2270"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2270"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2270\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":2276,"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2270\/revisions\/2276"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2270"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2270"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2270"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}