{"id":1840,"date":"2009-04-08T13:08:58","date_gmt":"2009-04-08T21:08:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/secularright.org\/wordpress\/?p=1840"},"modified":"2009-04-08T13:34:51","modified_gmt":"2009-04-08T21:34:51","slug":"godless-liberals-religious-conservatives-the-numbers-recaped","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/godless-liberals-religious-conservatives-the-numbers-recaped\/","title":{"rendered":"Godless liberals &#038; religious conservatives, the numbers recapped"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve presented this data before, but I thought a review would be nice to get into the record. <a href=\"http:\/\/hotair.com\/\">AllahPundit<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/ace.mu.nu\/archives\/285655.php\">Ace<\/a> have both linked to <a href=\"http:\/\/secularright.org\/wordpress\/?p=1812\">Heather&#8217;s post on David Brooks &#038; the New Atheist<\/a>. Ace notes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>This gets at something I think is important: I believe that evangelical atheists like Bill Maher are more obsessed with religion than the Pope because they believe that if people simply reject God, they&#8217;ll automatically agree with Maher&#8217;s libertine liberal take on the world.<\/p>\n<p>They won&#8217;t. Religion is often associated with traditional values, but it is not always the cause of them. There is a religious left which, I&#8217;m sure, is quite serious about its religious beliefs, and yet champions a liberal values system more in line with Bill Maher&#8217;s preferred politics.<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand there are atheists like Allah and agnostics like myself who nevertheless are mostly traditionalists. Despite Bill Maher&#8217;s desperate belief, a lack of affirmative faith in God has not made us good little liberals.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Below the fold I&#8217;ve reproduced the <a href=\"http:\/\/sda.berkeley.edu\/cgi-bin\/hsda?harcsda+gss08\">GSS<\/a> data comparing belief in God &#038; political orientation. The red shading indicates overrepresentation in a cell, while the blue the inverse.  As you can see, the more secular you are the more liberal you are, but most secular people are not liberal. Similarly, liberals tend to be more secular, but most liberals are not secular.<br \/>\n<!--more--><TABLE >  <TR>    <TH ALIGN=center BGCOLOR=#93BED5 COLSPAN=9><STRONG>Frequency Distribution<\/STRONG><\/TH>  <\/TR>  <TR ALIGN=center>    <TD ALIGN=left COLSPAN=2 ROWSPAN=2>Cells contain:<BR>      -Column percent<BR>      -Weighted N<\/TD>    <TH COLSPAN=7 scope=col>GOD<\/TH>  <\/TR>  <TR ALIGN=center>    <TD ><BR\/>ATH.<\/TD>            <TD ><BR\/>    AGN.<\/TD>            <TD ><BR>          HIGHER POWER<\/TD>        <TD ><BR>      SOMETIMES<\/TD>        <TD ><BR>          DOUBTS<\/TD>        <TD ><BR>          GOD EXISTS<\/TD>        <TH scope=col><EM><BR>          TOTAL<\/EM><\/TH>  <\/TR>  <TR ALIGN=right>    <TH ROWSPAN=8 scope=row>POL.<\/TH>            <TD ALIGN=left>VERY LIB.<\/TD>        <TD BGCOLOR=#ff6666><STRONG>8.7<\/STRONG><BR>      27<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#ff6666><STRONG>5.8<\/STRONG><BR>      31<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#ff6666><STRONG>5.0<\/STRONG><BR>      57<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#ffcccc><STRONG>3.0<\/STRONG><BR>      16<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#66ccff><STRONG>2.0<\/STRONG><BR>      43<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#66ccff><STRONG>2.1<\/STRONG><BR>      171<\/TD>    <TD><EM><STRONG>2.7<\/STRONG><\/EM><BR>        <EM>345<\/EM><\/TD>  <\/TR>  <TR ALIGN=right>    <TD ALIGN=left>LIBERAL<\/TD>          <TD BGCOLOR=#ff6666><STRONG>27.8<\/STRONG><BR>      87<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#ff6666><STRONG>19.6<\/STRONG><BR>      106<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#ff6666><STRONG>20.1<\/STRONG><BR>      227<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#ff6666><STRONG>15.1<\/STRONG><BR>      80<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#ff6666><STRONG>13.2<\/STRONG><BR>      277<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#66ccff><STRONG>8.6<\/STRONG><BR>      681<\/TD>    <TD><EM><STRONG>11.6<\/STRONG><\/EM><BR>        <EM>1,457<\/EM><\/TD>  <\/TR>  <TR ALIGN=right>    <TD ALIGN=left>SLIGHT LIB.<\/TD>          <TD BGCOLOR=#99ffff><STRONG>10.5<\/STRONG><BR>      33<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#ff6666><STRONG>20.6<\/STRONG><BR>      111<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#ff6666><STRONG>18.6<\/STRONG><BR>      210<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#99ffff><STRONG>10.1<\/STRONG><BR>      53<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#ff6666><STRONG>15.3<\/STRONG><BR>      322<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#66ccff><STRONG>10.5<\/STRONG><BR>      836<\/TD>    <TD><EM><STRONG>12.4<\/STRONG><\/EM><BR>        <EM>1,566<\/EM><\/TD>  <\/TR>  <TR ALIGN=right>    <TD ALIGN=left>MOD.<\/TD>                <TD BGCOLOR=#66ccff><STRONG>31.0<\/STRONG><BR>      97<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#66ccff><STRONG>31.6<\/STRONG><BR>      171<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#66ccff><STRONG>34.1<\/STRONG><BR>      386<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#ff6666><STRONG>42.2<\/STRONG><BR>      223<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#ffcccc><STRONG>38.0<\/STRONG><BR>      797<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#ff6666><STRONG>38.8<\/STRONG><BR>      3,092<\/TD>    <TD><EM><STRONG>37.9<\/STRONG><\/EM><BR>        <EM>4,766<\/EM><\/TD>  <\/TR>  <TR ALIGN=right>    <TD ALIGN=left>SLGHT CONS<\/TD>                  <TD BGCOLOR=#66ccff><STRONG>9.1<\/STRONG><BR>      29<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#99ffff><STRONG>12.8<\/STRONG><BR>      69<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#66ccff><STRONG>13.2<\/STRONG><BR>      149<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#ffcccc><STRONG>16.9<\/STRONG><BR>      90<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#ff6666><STRONG>18.6<\/STRONG><BR>      390<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#ffcccc><STRONG>15.8<\/STRONG><BR>      1,262<\/TD>    <TD><EM><STRONG>15.8<\/STRONG><\/EM><BR>        <EM>1,988<\/EM><\/TD>  <\/TR>  <TR ALIGN=right>    <TD ALIGN=left>CONS.<\/TD>              <TD BGCOLOR=#66ccff><STRONG>10.2<\/STRONG><BR>      32<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#66ccff><STRONG>7.8<\/STRONG><BR>      42<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#66ccff><STRONG>6.9<\/STRONG><BR>      78<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#66ccff><STRONG>11.7<\/STRONG><BR>      62<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#66ccff><STRONG>10.9<\/STRONG><BR>      229<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#ff6666><STRONG>19.8<\/STRONG><BR>      1,578<\/TD>    <TD><EM><STRONG>16.1<\/STRONG><\/EM><BR>        <EM>2,020<\/EM><\/TD>  <\/TR>  <TR ALIGN=right>    <TD ALIGN=left>VERY CONS<\/TD>                        <TD BGCOLOR=#ccffff><STRONG>2.7<\/STRONG><BR>      8<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#66ccff><STRONG>1.8<\/STRONG><BR>      10<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#66ccff><STRONG>2.3<\/STRONG><BR>      25<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#66ccff><STRONG>1.0<\/STRONG><BR>      5<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#66ccff><STRONG>2.0<\/STRONG><BR>      43<\/TD>    <TD BGCOLOR=#ff6666><STRONG>4.3<\/STRONG><BR>      345<\/TD>    <TD><EM><STRONG>3.5<\/STRONG><\/EM><BR>        <EM>436<\/EM><\/TD>  <\/TR>  <TR ALIGN=right>    <TH ALIGN=left scope=row><EM>TOTAL<\/EM><\/TH>          <TD><EM><STRONG>100.0<\/STRONG><\/EM><BR>        <EM>312<\/EM><\/TD>    <TD><EM><STRONG>100.0<\/STRONG><\/EM><BR>        <EM>540<\/EM><\/TD>    <TD><EM><STRONG>100.0<\/STRONG><\/EM><BR>        <EM>1,132<\/EM><\/TD>    <TD><EM><STRONG>100.0<\/STRONG><\/EM><BR>        <EM>529<\/EM><\/TD>    <TD><EM><STRONG>100.0<\/STRONG><\/EM><BR>        <EM>2,100<\/EM><\/TD>    <TD><EM><STRONG>100.0<\/STRONG><\/EM><BR>        <EM>7,965<\/EM><\/TD>    <TD><EM><STRONG>100.0<\/STRONG><\/EM><BR>        <EM>12,579<\/EM><\/TD>  <\/TR><\/TABLE><\/p>\n<table border=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" >\n<tr>\n<th align=\"center\" bgcolor=\"#93BED5\" colspan=\"10\"><strong>Frequency Distribution<\/strong><\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr align=\"center\">\n<td align=\"left\" colspan=\"2\" rowspan=\"2\">Cells contain:<br \/>      -Column percent<br \/>      -Weighted N<\/td>\n<th colspan=\"8\" scope=\"col\">POLVIEWS<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr align=\"center\">\n<td >      VERY LIB.<\/td>\n<td >      LIB.<\/td>\n<td >      SLIGHT  LIB.<\/td>\n<td >      MOD.<\/td>\n<td >      SLGHT CONS..<\/td>\n<td >          CONS.<\/td>\n<td >              VERY CONS.<\/td>\n<th scope=\"col\"><em><br \/>          TOTAL<\/em><\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<tr align=\"right\">\n<th rowspan=\"7\" scope=\"row\">GOD<\/th>\n<td align=\"left\">ATHEIST<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ff6666\"><strong>7.9<\/strong><br \/>      27<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ff6666\"><strong>6.0<\/strong><br \/>      87<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#99ffff\"><strong>2.1<\/strong><br \/>      33<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#66ccff\"><strong>2.0<\/strong><br \/>      97<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#66ccff\"><strong>1.4<\/strong><br \/>      29<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#66ccff\"><strong>1.6<\/strong><br \/>      32<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ccffff\"><strong>1.9<\/strong><br \/>      8<\/td>\n<td><em><strong>2.5<\/strong><\/em><br \/>        <em>312<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr align=\"right\">\n<td align=\"left\">AGNOSTIC<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ff6666\"><strong>9.1<\/strong><br \/>      31<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ff6666\"><strong>7.3<\/strong><br \/>      106<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ff6666\"><strong>7.1<\/strong><br \/>      111<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#66ccff\"><strong>3.6<\/strong><br \/>      171<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#99ffff\"><strong>3.5<\/strong><br \/>      69<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#66ccff\"><strong>2.1<\/strong><br \/>      42<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#66ccff\"><strong>2.3<\/strong><br \/>      10<\/td>\n<td><em><strong>4.3<\/strong><\/em><br \/>        <em>540<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr align=\"right\">\n<td align=\"left\"> HIGHER POWER<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ff6666\"><strong>16.5<\/strong><br \/>      57<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ff6666\"><strong>15.6<\/strong><br \/>      227<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ff6666\"><strong>13.4<\/strong><br \/>      210<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#66ccff\"><strong>8.1<\/strong><br \/>      386<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#66ccff\"><strong>7.5<\/strong><br \/>      149<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#66ccff\"><strong>3.8<\/strong><br \/>      78<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#66ccff\"><strong>5.8<\/strong><br \/>      25<\/td>\n<td><em><strong>9.0<\/strong><\/em><br \/>        <em>1,132<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr align=\"right\">\n<td align=\"left\">BELIEVE SOMETIMES<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ffcccc\"><strong>4.6<\/strong><br \/>      16<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ff6666\"><strong>5.5<\/strong><br \/>      80<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#99ffff\"><strong>3.4<\/strong><br \/>      53<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ff6666\"><strong>4.7<\/strong><br \/>      223<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ffcccc\"><strong>4.5<\/strong><br \/>      90<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#66ccff\"><strong>3.1<\/strong><br \/>      62<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#66ccff\"><strong>1.2<\/strong><br \/>      5<\/td>\n<td><em><strong>4.2<\/strong><\/em><br \/>        <em>529<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr align=\"right\">\n<td align=\"left\">BELIEVE BUT DOUBTS<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#66ccff\"><strong>12.4<\/strong><br \/>      43<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ff6666\"><strong>19.0<\/strong><br \/>      277<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ff6666\"><strong>20.6<\/strong><br \/>      322<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ffcccc\"><strong>16.7<\/strong><br \/>      797<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ff6666\"><strong>19.6<\/strong><br \/>      390<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#66ccff\"><strong>11.4<\/strong><br \/>      229<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#66ccff\"><strong>9.8<\/strong><br \/>      43<\/td>\n<td><em><strong>16.7<\/strong><\/em><br \/>        <em>2,100<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr align=\"right\">\n<td align=\"left\">KNOW GOD EXISTS<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#66ccff\"><strong>49.6<\/strong><br \/>      171<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#66ccff\"><strong>46.7<\/strong><br \/>      681<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#66ccff\"><strong>53.4<\/strong><br \/>      836<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ff6666\"><strong>64.9<\/strong><br \/>      3,092<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ffcccc\"><strong>63.5<\/strong><br \/>      1,262<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ff6666\"><strong>78.1<\/strong><br \/>      1,578<\/td>\n<td bgcolor=\"#ff6666\"><strong>78.9<\/strong><br \/>      345<\/td>\n<td><em><strong>63.3<\/strong><\/em><br \/>        <em>7,965<\/em><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr align=\"right\">\n<th align=\"left\" scope=\"row\"><em>COL TOTAL<\/em><\/th>\n<td><em><strong>100.0<\/strong><\/em><br \/>        <em>345<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em><strong>100.0<\/strong><\/em><br \/>        <em>1,457<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em><strong>100.0<\/strong><\/em><br \/>        <em>1,566<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em><strong>100.0<\/strong><\/em><br \/>        <em>4,766<\/em><\/td>\n<td><em><strong>100.0<\/strong><\/em><br \/>   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AllahPundit and Ace have both linked to Heather&#8217;s post on David Brooks &#038; the New Atheist. Ace notes: This gets at something &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/godless-liberals-religious-conservatives-the-numbers-recaped\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_mi_skip_tracking":false},"categories":[9],"tags":[54],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1840"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1840"}],"version-history":[{"count":16,"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1840\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1856,"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1840\/revisions\/1856"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1840"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1840"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/secularright.org\/SR\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1840"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}